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  Another big win for child molesters!

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it just keeps getting easier and easier to molest.

  when big religion has got your back, and you know that you can rape kids with impunity as father religion keeps the door to heaven swinging wide, 24/7 absolution available for the superstitious pedo, why not should everyone rape kids….

  the pedophile loophole, the mainstay of the whitewashed, clergy penitent privilege, the hole e grail of the christian whore is swinging open, welcoming the perverts.

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  was a new boy

  states' rights - Utah and Arizona

  (posted this article since original link is dead)
  March 1, 2023

  'In the wake of the AP’s investigation last year, Republican state Rep. Phil Lyman and Democratic Rep. Angela Romero announced plans to reform Utah’s clergy-penitent privilege loophole. Lyman, who served six years as a Latter-day Saints’ bishop, said at the time lawmakers should want to reexamine the loophole “regardless of religious or political affiliation.”

  “People should be able to go and confess their sins to their bishop without fear of being prosecuted up until when they are confessing something that has affected someone’s else life significantly,” he told the AP in August.'

  "... churches have maintained the same playbook for decades in opposing more disclosure.

  Routinely it involves a two-pronged approach, defending clergy-penitent privilege in statehouses and using it to avoid damaging disclosures in court cases, said Hamilton, also a University of Pennsylvania law professor.

  “They have not veered from it. Both institutions are hoping that time will simply let everybody start trusting them again,” Hamilton said, referring to Catholics and Latter-day Saints.
  

  But, she added, “by preventing the public — and especially the sincere believers — from getting the full story you don’t create the accountability that these organizations should be held to and the secrets continue.”

  “The problem in the United States — and this is particularly acute in state like Utah — is that the lobbying power of these religious organizations is so extraordinary,” Hamilton said.'

  https://apnews.com/article/mormon-clergy-abuse-reporting-utah-ca56260080476c4c99cd6359bd3742f3

  Court cites clergy-penitent privilege in dismissing child sex abuse lawsuit against Mormon church

  BY MICHAEL REZENDES AND JASON DEAREN

  November 8, 2023

  An Arizona judge has dismissed a high-profile child sexual abuse lawsuit against The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ruling that church officials who knew that a church member was sexually abusing his daughter had no duty to report the abuse to police or social service agencies because the information was received during a spiritual confession.

  
  

  In a ruling on Friday, Cochise County Superior Court Judge Timothy Dickerson said the state’s clergy-penitent privilege excused two bishops and several other officials with the church, widely known as the Mormon church, from the state’s child sex abuse mandatory reporting law because Paul Adams initially disclosed during a confession that he was sexually abusing his daughter.

  
  

  “Church defendants were not required under the Mandatory Reporting Statute to report the abuse of Jane Doe 1 by her father because their knowledge of the abuse came from confidential communications which fall within the clergy-penitent exception,” Dickerson wrote in his decision.

  Although the church excommunicated Adams, its decision to withhold his abusive behavior from civil authorities allowed him to continue abusing his daughter for seven years, during which he began abusing a second daughter, starting when she was just 6 weeks old.
  

  Lynne Cadigan, an attorney representing the Adams children who filed the 2021 lawsuit, said she will appeal the ruling. “How do you explain to young victims that a rapist’s religious beliefs are more important than their right to be free from rape?” she asked. Cadigan also said the ruling, if allowed to stand, would “completely eviscerate the state’s child protection law.”

  https://apnews.com/article/mormon-sex-abuse-de446ad8212b6ca50ecbaaf222c35e7e
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  Former Jehovah's Witness admits: We targeted grief-stricken as 'ripe fruit'

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit.

  jehovah's witnesses target grief and see the recently bereaved as "ripe fruit" for conversion, a former elder of the faith says.. vince and michele tylor​ spoke out after reading the story of wellington woman jean sergent-shadbolt, who received a handwritten letter from a jehovah's witness three months to the day after her step-cousin, friend and flatmate died.. a current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative.

  however, he concedes such people may feel guided by jehovah's witness literature.. but vince tylor said he knew of members who would trawl though obituaries to find grieving people, or visit cemeteries.. "not only do we see watchtower printed material suggesting and supporting writing letters from obituaries such as what jean received, but we even have reports and articles of encouragement for jws to go to cemeteries to look for people as well.".

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  'At times, funeral notices appearing in the newspaper have opened the way for writing a brief comforting letter to bereaved family members.'
  

  
  

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/202008130

  
  
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  Former Jehovah's Witness admits: We targeted grief-stricken as 'ripe fruit'

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit.

  jehovah's witnesses target grief and see the recently bereaved as "ripe fruit" for conversion, a former elder of the faith says.. vince and michele tylor​ spoke out after reading the story of wellington woman jean sergent-shadbolt, who received a handwritten letter from a jehovah's witness three months to the day after her step-cousin, friend and flatmate died.. a current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative.

  however, he concedes such people may feel guided by jehovah's witness literature.. but vince tylor said he knew of members who would trawl though obituaries to find grieving people, or visit cemeteries.. "not only do we see watchtower printed material suggesting and supporting writing letters from obituaries such as what jean received, but we even have reports and articles of encouragement for jws to go to cemeteries to look for people as well.".

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  Tauranga widower says Jehovah’s Witness volunteer used funeral notice to send letter to him weeks after wife’s death

  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/tauranga-widower-says-jehovahs-witness-volunteer-used-funeral-notice-to-send-letter-to-him-weeks-after-wifes-death/UNVSBGKL2RFE5GLB3MAUL4QRO4/

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  Widower targeted by Jehovah's Witness volunteer - NZ Herald
  
  
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  BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.

  then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..

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  NotFormer

  Were there any casualties?

  Halloween, 50 years ago, James Olson (Cleaning Dept.)

  'I was standing next to Norm Brekey, the ink room overseer. Next to Norm was Tom Combs, the Job Press overseer.

  Tom Combs said and I quote "He must have done something really bad to have killed himself!"

  Then Norm said and I quote. "I'm glad he jumped off the back of the building and not the front of the building, because we really don't need the extra publicity."

  The Love.
  

  (In the book it's page 289, Chapter 32)

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5417237131296768/chapter-31-new-boy-50-years-watchtower-slave
  

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  A ex Bethelite pm'd me.

  'Hey, just a heads up. You've labeled Building 2 as Building 3. I worked in 2.'

  Which means Alzheimer's is creeping into one of our brains. I'm sticking to my numbers for now. My 1st job was in Bulk Wrapping, Bldg. 3, floor 10.
  
  
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  Selena Vertolomo "The Mower" and her sister Sherrie call into The Six Screens TIME STAMP 2:53

  by RESPECTFUL OBSERVER in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  selena vertolomo, former jehovah's witnesses who was sexually abused in watchtower, went to visit tony morris in north carolina.

  selena and her sister call in and explain their position.

  callers dial in from around the world and ask plenty of questions.

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  TxNVSue2023

  Is there any updates to this situation?

  Listener
  some of her ideas are whacky.

  vienne

  Selena is either a liar or delusional.

  Selena is so lucky that she has some sanity left. Abused from 6 months to age 11? And she's not going from one identity to another nonstop. A true miracle.

  https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/dissociative-identity-disorder-multiple-personality-disorder

  Anyway she toned down her speech at the protest. Sharing another piece of the puzzle.

  2:03:54

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naqWGyK43Ck&t=7560s
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  BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.

  then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..

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  BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.

  then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..

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  was a new boy

  They were like half animals, whistling and hollering at the sisters going by on tour.

  
  
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  BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.

  then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..

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  was a new boy

  In the 70's a Bethel Elder told me that every morning in the 60's the Paint and Scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of Building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which I doubt was more than 12" wide. Then they'd go render sacred service to Jehovah.
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  Are Paul and Peter really comfortable with the amount of their research, before joining the Southern Baptist Convention?

  by was a new boy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  both went from jw land to the southern baptist convention.. yes, we're all tribal, do some just say, 'to hell with it, i'll just roll the dice?'.

  southern baptists have some real problems on how they've handled child sex abuse cases.. .

  paul blizard's ex jehovah's witness testimony: a 3rd generation jw, a pioneer, & a former bethelite.

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  Both went from JW Land to the Southern Baptist Convention.

  Yes, we're all tribal, do some just say, 'To hell with it, I'll just roll the dice?'

  
  

  Southern Baptists have some real problems on how they've handled child sex abuse cases.

  
  

  Paul Blizard's Ex Jehovah's Witness Testimony: A 3rd Generation JW, a Pioneer, & a Former Bethelite
  

  
  

  1:43:52 Paul says, 'I became a Southern Baptist.'

  
  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq2mbVv4I5A&t=4772s

  
  

  And, 'Conclusion

  On Sunday, July 27, on his eightieth birthday, Peter Gregerson was baptized at the First Baptist Church of Gadsden,'

  
  

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/184595/new-peter-gregerson-story
  

  
  

  I was informed his church is a 'church in friendly cooperation with the Southern Baptist Convention.'

  
  

  Chaos Erupts Over SBC Legal Filing in Louisville Abuse Lawsuit

  By Bob Smietana October 26, 2023

  Pastor Mike Keahbone, center, leads prayer with the Southern Baptist Convention’s Abuse Reform Implementation Task Force during the SBC annual meeting at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center in New Orleans, Wednesday, June 14, 2023. (RNS photo by Emily Kask)

  'Abuse survivors, along with some members of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Executive Committee and the SBC’s abuse reform task force, have denounced a Kentucky court filing by Southern Baptist entities aimed at limiting their liability for sexual abuse claims.

  A brief filed earlier this year by lawyers for the Executive Committee, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Lifeway, an SBC publisher, argues that a Kentucky law that changed the statute of limitations for making civil claims over abuse — and allowing survivors to sue third parties such as churches or police — should not be applied retroactively.

  “There are no mincing of words here. No holding back. This is disgusting,” abuse survivors Megan Lively, Jules Woodson and Tiffany Thigpen said in a statement released Wednesday.

  A group of Southern Baptist leaders working on abuse reforms also criticized the brief, saying the filing was “a choice to stand against every survivor in Kentucky.”

  “This brief, and the policy arguments made in it, were made without our knowledge and without our approval,” the statement read. “Moreover, they do not represent our values and positions.”

  Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of “I Didn’t Survive: Emerging Whole After Deception, Persecution, and Hidden Abuse” by Naghmeh Abedini Panahi. To donate, click here.

  Members of the Executive Committee, including Oklahoma pastor Mike Keahbone, expressed dismay at the brief, saying he and other members of the committee were blindsided by it. Keahbone, a member of a task force implementing abuse reforms in the SBC, said the brief undermined survivors such as Thigpen, Woodson and Lively, who have supported the reforms.

  “We’ve had survivors that have been faithful to give us a chance,” he told Religion News Service in a phone interview. “And we hurt them badly.”

  The controversy over the amicus brief is the latest crisis for leaders of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, which has dealt with a revolving door of leaders and rising legal costs in the aftermath of a sexual abuse crisis in recent years...'

  https://julieroys.com/chaos-erupts-over-sbc-legal-filing-in-louisville-abuse-lawsuit-2/

  survivor

  Christa Brown

  
  

  says, 'I'm so sick of all the "we've really got a heart for survivors" crap that's spewing out from all corners of the SBC now. It is as
  

  @PastorBenMarsh

  observes... "The metaphorical equivalent of a boyfriend telling his girlfriend he loves her while he beats her." #ThisistheSBC #SBCtoo

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  'That’s what makes it hurt so much, and that’s what makes me so disappointed in myself: I did, in fact, wind up hurting survivors by what I did.' - Southern Baptist president Bart Barber

  
  

  https://praisegodbarebones.blogspot.com/2023/10/statement-regarding-conventions-amicus.html

  
  
  
  

  
  
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  Is There Concrete Evidence That The Org. Has Covered up Child Abuse?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.

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  NotFormer

  harder to prove organizational complicity

  short on time? start 32:50

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VUht-Vharo